This conversation is with Scott Pastell, a 2007 Naval Academy graduate and former Surface Warfare Officer. We discuss his orders to the University of Nebraska to be an ROTC instructor where he earned a master’s degree in education and planned his transition to civilian life.

Scott shares with us his approach to leadership by trying to influence to a maximal level with minimal power through mechanisms that inspire the “want-to” instead of the “force-to.” Scott is creating systems of gamification at the individual and team level to infuse his coworkers with a sense of drive and purpose through positive reinforcement and a competitive framework of key metrics.